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Russia and America, on the Brink of War

First, Russia allowed Edward Snowden to board a Russian jet in Hong Kong and fly to Moscow.

Then, it allowed Snowden to violate Russian law by remaining for weeks in the Moscow airport transit zone, when she should have been there for days at most.

Next, it provided Snowden with what the U.S. government has called a “propaganda forum” at the airport, during which this venal criminal sought to further his attacks on the USA and his escape from U.S. justice.  It allowed human rights groups to participate in the forum as well as journalists, groups which Russia has condemned and sought to eject from the country as purported dangers to Russian national security.  The White House press secretary acidly chided Russia on its hypocrisy, challenging the Kremlin to let human rights do their work throughout Russia, not just at the Moscow airport.

Finally, Russia continued to let it be known that it would never extradite Snowden from Russia and might give him political asylum to protect him from American justice.

All these deeds amount to acts of war by Russia against the United States. Snowden has been publicly identified by the President of the U.S. as a major American criminal figure. The President has specifically raised the issue of Snowden with Russia, and has demanded that Russia not provide aid and comfort to him.  Snowden has broken U.S. law by stealing highly classified information and releasing it to the public and then he has fled into the arms of countries like China, Russia and Venezuela who are enemies of the U.S. and who reject basic American values like democracy. Snowden has also associated himself with the venal Wikileaks organization, whose founder is also a fugitive from the justice of many countries.

When true freedom fighters like Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Mohandas Gandhi broke the law, they did not flee to countries who were enemies of their nations.  They stayed right where they are, accepted arrest and challenged the validity of the laws under which they were prosecuted, ultimately bringing needed change to the countries.  Snowden’s actions stand in stark contrast to the actions of such heroes, and clearly brand him as the criminal he is.

But despite all this, Snowden has done the USA a great favor.  He has clearly shown Americans that Russia is their enemy, as Russia has eagerly and repeatedly rushed to Snowden’s defense.  Even as Russia complains that the West refuses to arrest and extradite figures such as William Browder and Boris Berezovsky, Russia itself refuses to extradite those who are charged by the USA. Russia continues to provide aid and comfort to rogue anti-American regimes in places like Syria, Iran and Venezuela, and it continues its frenzied efforts to revive the USSR under KGB leadership.

We can’t help wondering what Russians and their government would do if the U.S. allowed a man wanted by the Russian government for high crimes against the Russian state to fly to JFK airport, hole up there for weeks, and hold a press conference attacking Russia. We wonder how Russians and their government would react if the U.S. were to publicly consider giving this criminal asylum to protect him from Russian justice.

Well, in fact we don’t have to imagine. We know how Russians reacted when Britain refused to extradite Boris Berezovsky.  Russia’s reaction was swift and furious.  It launched virulent attacks on Britons throughout Russia, including even an attack on the British Council.  Russians screamed loudly and furiously that Britain had no right to shield Berezovsky, and then they turned around and shielded Andrei Lugovoi, the accused killer of Alexender Litvinenko, from British justice.

But there’s a big difference between Berezovsky and Snowden, of course. Berezovsky was only accused of stealing money to line his pockets, not stealing and publishing secrets which could assist Russia’s enemies in destroying Russia.   Refusing to extradite Berezovsky might be a irritant to Russia, but it’s not an act of war.

And there’s another difference:  Snowden isn’t British, he’s American.  As U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has pointed out, America has repeatedly extradited wanted Russian criminals to Russia, and there is no Snowden or even Berezovsky being given aid and comfort in the USA.  So Russia’s harboring of Snowden is that much more outrageous.

Snowden has exposed the craven policy of appeasement that has been pursued for five years now by the Obama administration.  Now Americans and the world clearly see that there never was any “reset” of relations between Russia and America as Obama claimed, that Russia’s proud America-hating KGB spy ruler has only continued to work towards America’s destruction.

Now. the USA and Russia stand on the brink of war.  With double Russia’s population, ten times its financial resources and host of powerful allies, Russia has no more chance to prevail in this war than did the USSR.

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20 responses to “Russia and America, on the Brink of War

  1. vladislav rutenburg ⋅

    I wonder what USA would do if a Russian dissident, just like Snowden, disclosed to the press the details of how KGB/FSB spies on its own people, and then asked the US government for a political asylum? Would the US forcibly deport him to Russia into the FSB claws to send him to prison for the rest of his life?

    • larussophobe ⋅

      You’ll have to keep wondering, because the USA has never refused to send such a person back to Russia. In fact, to the contrary as Secretary of State Kerry has said seven such persons have been sent back. Russia, by contrast, has NEVER reciprocated.

      Why does Russia feel it’s OK to complain about Berezovsky being given asylum in Britain and yet to offer asylum to Snowden? Do you have ANY answer to that question?

      And while you are wondering, why don’t you wonder what Russia would do if the USA allowed Doku Umarev to hole up at JFK airport and stage a press conference. Do you have the courage to answer that question?

  2. vladislav rutenburg ⋅

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/10/200878660/snowden-is-a-whistle-blower-americans-say-in-poll

    Snowden Is A Whistle-Blower, Americans Say In Poll

    More than half of American voters in a new Quinnipiac University national poll say that Edward Snowden is a whistle-blower, not a traitor. In the poll conducted from June 28 to July 8, interviewers called 2,014 registered voters on their landlines and cellphones. They were asked, “Do you regard Edward Snowden, the national security consultant who released information to the media about the phone scanning program, as more of a traitor, or more of a whistle-blower?”

    In their responses, 55 percent called Snowden a whistle-blower, with 34 percent saying he is a traitor. “Almost every party, gender, income, education, age and income group regards Snowden as a whistle-blower rather than a traitor,” the Polling Institute said in a release accompanying the data. “The lone exception is black voters, with 43 percent calling him a traitor and 42 percent calling him a whistle-blower.

    • larussophobe ⋅

      Not sure what your point is. Are you saying that the Russian government is defending the interests of the American people while the US government is attacking them? That Russia knows better what American interests are than America does? Do you REALLY believe that, creep?

      Majority of Americans give Snowden thumbs down.

      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/17/cnn-poll-majority-give-snowden-thumbs-down/

      Americans say Snowden should be prosecuted for NSA leaks.

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/17/americans-say-snowden-should-be-prosecuted-for-nsa-leaks-in-usa-today-poll/2430583/

      If Snowden is a friend of the American people, why did he run to American enemies, China, Russia and Venezuela? Why not stay in the US, get arrested (like Mandela, King and Gandhi), fight the charges and win? Wouldn’t the majority of Americans rally to his aid, if you are correct?

      Your lies explode before your own eyes like fireworks.

      By the way, ever heard about the polls that showed Thomas Dewey would become president in 1948? Hear about the newspaper headlines that reported it had happened?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman

      Do you know who actually became president?

      Do you care AT ALL about what the U.S. GOVERNMENT says about Snowden? Do you believe Russia is free to ignore what the US GOVERNMENT says about Snowden because of opinion polls? Do opinion polls control the US military?

      • Beetlejuice ⋅

        “Not sure what your point is. Are you saying that the Russian government is defending the interests of the American people while the US government is attacking them?”

        He’s saying most Americans don’t believe Snowden is a traitor contrary to your mickey mouse version. Can’t read correctly to save you life, can you, Kim?

        “If Snowden is a friend of the American people, why did he run to American enemies, China, Russia and Venezuela? Why not stay in the US, get arrested (like Mandela, King and Gandhi), fight the charges and win?”

        Snowden is an enemy if the American government. What kind of fair trial would he receive as a labeled “traitor”? Certainly not even an unfair trial given to those like MLK, Malcolm X, or Mumia Abu Jamal. The questions of an 8 year old trying to understand politics, it’s so cute :)

  3. The REAL American ⋅

    LOL, this video is a perfect response to this article:

    the associated press reporter at 1:30 is a hero. way to stand up for REAL AMERICAN VALUES!

    • sjihlarussophobe ⋅

      BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

      All this “Snowden snow-job” tactic does is serve the US of ‘Ey’s intent to obfuscate the REAL issues which are precisely the wanton and blatent lawlessness and TREASON of O’bomber and his apologist’s (Kim ‘Joopa’ Zigfeld included) clandestine and illegal actions being brought out from deep secrecy. To see the indiscriminate arm-flailing and double-speak of these beltway buffoons is high comedy indeed. To wit, the asinine post calling for ‘Brink of War’ is ironic to the extreme. Seems like so much projection from the uber-patriot and well-documented Russia-hater Larussophobe.

      The US ‘demanding’ actions from sovereign nations and calling for punitive sanctions against any and all parties which irk the US of ‘Ey elites because of the untimely disclosure of their criminal actions against their own people (not to mention the many, many war crimes committed against sovereign nations on behalf of the citizenry), is the ultimate clown parade. It is clear who is lapping up the propaganda here.

    • Beetlejuice ⋅

      Thanks for posting!

    • Beetlejuice ⋅

      The entire video.

  4. Manfred Steifschwanz ⋅

    As is often the case, the truth does comes out — inadvertently –when people such as Kim start raging and fuming:

    >> Snowden has exposed the craven policy of appeasement that has been pursued for five years now by the Obama administration. Now Americans and the world clearly see that there never was any “reset” of relations between Russia and America as Obama claimed, that Russia’s proud America-hating KGB spy ruler has only continued to work towards America’s destruction >>

    Amusingly, the above pronunciamento does correctly highlight some very important facts — to wit:

    1) Yes, Snowden has exposed to all but the most die-hard reactionary yokels that Obama has appeased US imperialism, as is indeed his job. Warmongering and lawlessness thus continue unabated, accompanied by ever more domestic coercion.

    2) As a corollary to (1), there never was any “reset” of relations between Russia and the US. Putin, ever since his ascension to power in the late 1990s, has constantly been stirring up troubles to US imperialism, both inside and outside of Russia (“has only continued to work towards America’s destruction”). We’re blessed with La Russophobe’s presence on the Internet for a reason, are we not?

    As for the reckless confidence in Russia’s crushing defeat, it’s a premature conclusion in view of prevalent economic circumstances.

    • dolly538 ⋅

      There is no such thing as imperialism. The U.S. is just an ordinary democracy, and Russia is the real problem. Nobody fears living in Hollywood Hills, but being a Russian resident is a scary proposition.

      It is unclear to me why Obama is so friendly towards the Kremlin. Is he so stupid that he can’t see that Russia is a geopolitical foe? Or maybe he is smarter than me and working on some secret grand plan to crush Moscow? I fear it is the former.

      • Manfred Steifschwanz ⋅

        Repeat after me: “Die-hard, reactionary yokel”. It’s about you, mon petit.

      • Beetlejuice ⋅

        “Nobody fears living in Hollywood Hills, but being a Russian resident is a scary proposition.”

        LOL! Sweetheart, please grow up.

  5. Minsky ⋅

    great post. The outrageous hypocrisy and silliness of Putin’s “no I’m helping Snowden, now I’m not” would be an endless source of laughs if Russia were a TV sitcom.

  6. Auriga ⋅

    US keeps losing face in the Snowden affair. Go on, humiliate yourselves even more.

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  8. vladislav rutenburg ⋅

    > An individual clearly know so much on them, youve coated so many bottoms.

    Well put.

  9. rutenburg

    > All these deeds amount to acts of war by Russia against the United States. Now. the USA and Russia stand on the brink of war. With double Russia’s population, ten times its financial resources and host of powerful allies, Russia has no more chance to prevail in this war than did the USSR.

    Are you serious? Do you still dream of a time when Russia once again becomes even remotely important to the American voters and taxpayers and they will authorize more deficit spending on a new Cold War with Russia, and “Russia experts” like yourself become important and even funded? Forget it. You’ve lost your funding and will never get it back. Russia will never again become America’s main military foe. America will continue to start and fight numerous wars in the coming years, until we go bankrupt from all this war debt. Bu tit won’t be against Russia. If you want to be funded again, stud Arabic, Persian, Chinese, Spanish… No wait! You were a funded “Russia expert” even though you know not a word of Russian and not a thing about the Russian culture or history. So, just call yourself an expert on the Middle East and try to get funded.

    BTW, your warmongering is surprisingly reminiscent of Hermann Goering’s words:

    Nuremberg Diary (1947)

    Interview in Göring’s cell

    Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

    Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

    Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

    /18 April 1946/

  10. Beetlejuice ⋅

    Then it’s time for Kim and the rest of her little squad to grab their guns, shoot their neighbors, steal their goods, and run for the hills as armageddon approaches with the force of the entire Russian Army.

    “Finally, Russia continued to let it be known that it would never extradite Snowden from Russia and might give him political asylum to protect him from American justice.
    All these deeds amount to acts of war by Russia against the United States.”

    So refusing to extradite Snowden means pointing guns at the U.S and ready to fire? I love reading about political situations from the mind of an 8-year old.

    As Mr. Rutenburg pointed out, most Americans view Snowden as a Whistleblower. Whistleblowers are true human rights activists and American heroes be it Philip Agee who exposed CIA terror against other nations and groups including unions; Kathryn Bolkovac who exposed the U.N/NATO involvement in human trafficking in Bosnia; Bradley Manning who exposed the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan for profit among other things; or Edward Snowden.

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